Airbnb Must Adapt or Die

Dean43
Level 2
Denver, CO

Airbnb Must Adapt or Die

Setting up a quality Airbnb

I will start out by giving you a little history of my experience with Airbnb. I was a host from 2014 through March of 2022 when after the City of Denver changed the laws it did not seem feasible to run an Airbnb out of my house as I was running five listings out of the same house and living in the master bedroom. I also have a strong sense for quality furniture, quality supplies (towels, paper towels, toilet paper, etc.). Airbnb was started as a disruptor to hotel stays. Originally hosts were individuals who strived to have quality places with quality accommodations at a much lower price than hotels. What was once disruptive, now has hit economies of scale and reached the bottom of the barrel with property managers who are usually high school kids who didn’t go to college kids, or college kids who used to live in dirty dorms, so their level of quality and service is extremely poor and lacking any resemblance of the terms. In order to run a quality Airbnb, you MUST have standards for your business. That means quality furniture. I like Costco because they have the “highest quality goods, at the best possible price”. That means their furniture lasts five to ten years, unlike IKEA, Walmart or Target furniture. It’s safe to say that any Airbnd that has furnished their places with the latter is NOT providing quality, whatsoever. The next important thing is your laundry, linens and supplies. You can and should get everything you need from Costco. The linens have the highest thread counts (quality) and they’re super soft, reasonably priced and will last significantly longer than other retailers’ brands. The towels at Costco are superb (quality) compared to any other retailer. You should have plenty of towels for your quests (6-10 towels of all sizes). Now let’s talk kitchen supplies and toiletries. The Kirkland signature paper towels are not only plentiful, but also an extreme value and quality for the money. Buying anything else is purchasing poor quality products and frankly they’re cheap wasteful products anyway. Don’t do it! Let’s talk toilet paper! Even hotels mess this up, but an Airbnb using one ply toilet paper is insulting to your guests. To do it right, you buy Charmin in the large bulk size at Costco. It’s the best value for the quality and the money and you keep your guests happy. All of this may seem a little expensive as an upfront cost, but you win with quality and service and that’s the only thing that matters. On top of that, all the costs to do these things right are tax deductions to your end of year bottom line, so DO IT RIGHT! STOP BEING CHEAP!!! You’re only damaging your reviews by being CHEAP! Which will lose you guests in the long term. You may be charging large amounts now, but if your reviews go in the toilet, you’ll have zero guests in the long-term, so price your **bleep** right too. STOP PRICE GAUGING! You’re only hurting the market and your future earnings, because if you’re overpriced, I destroy your ratings! I DO NOT hold back! When you over price your product, to me you’re just a SCUMBAG OIL LANDMAN Salesmen! Those are the worst, BTW!

 

Third Party Hotel Airbnb Hosts

This one I have a real contention with. These ** don’t give a **bleep** about the guests. They’re real POSs! Not only will they fight you on everything, but they also don’t respond quickly whatsoever. Let’s talk about the real problem, though. The apartment complexes have decided to partake in the listings, but they don’t want to be held accountable for anything in the hosting process, so they hire a third-party property management company. Well, that’s great! You have no honor or integrity to be held accountable. The apartment complex staff gets to point the finger at the host because it’s not their fault (eyerolls) and the host gets to blame it on the complex, because it’s not their fault (eyerolls). Then, when you bring up an issue with the Airbnb support Ambassador for the area, they often refer you to get resolution with the host, because it’s not their fault! Again, no **bleep**ING ACCOUNTABILITY! This society’s weak behavior must end! Own your **bleep**, HOSTS! Own your **bleep**, apartment complexes! Own your **bleep**, Airbnb! You have NO integrity whatsoever and you now offer crappy bottom of the barrel products and services. What was once a disruptive product, is now fully sewer excrement for a product and service. Absolute **bleep**! No wonder hotels are coming back in a big way!

 

Why are hotels better than Short Term Rentals?

The first thing is you can cancel your stay up until 24 hours until the stay, unless you book on a third-party aggregate site like Orbitz, Kayak, Travelocity, etc. ** . I use them to find the best deals, then I book directly on the hotel’s app because it’s usually always the same price and I have the benefit of being able to cancel if I need to. The second-best thing about a hotel is you get daily cleaning, new towels whenever you want them and if you’re a regular guest you get a late checkout. They offer nice lobbies to hang out with. There is a person you can call for immediate service if anything is wrong with your room. On Airbnb you get this tech BOT runaround for 30 minutes until you finally can speak to an ambassador and then that ambassador passes the buck as if it’s not his/her responsibility (No Accountability). What kind of crappy service is that? Airbnb is an absolute JOKE when it comes to service and quality these days. I know because I was a host, I did it right and now as a guest I am absolutely disgusted with the abhorrent product hosts and Airbnb ambassadors are providing.

 

Cancellation Policies

Okay, let’s talk about hosting cancellation fees. If you’re not allowing 100% cancellation up to 48 hours before the listing and at least a 75% refund the day of, then your product is **bleep**! FULL STOP! If you’re in a high-density area like the city of Denver, you can get another booking within a week and will NOT lose any revenue, so STOP with the “NO REFUND” policy BULL**bleep**! It makes you look like an uneducated, immoral POS that has no understanding of the business! Frankly, I won’t book any place that has this policy ever again, and neither should anyone else for that matter. If you refuse 100% refund when the cancellation is 48 hours in advance, you have NO INTEGRITY, NO HONOR, NO SENSIBILITIES WHATSOEVER! You’re just a dirtbag host trying to scam people and you should NOT be in business if you have this attitude! This is about ethics and moral responsibility! Your review will suffer tremendously with this **bleep** policy in place.
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Pat271
Level 10
Greenville, SC

Please….I beg of you….confine yourself to hotels!

 

By the way, hotels are not “coming back in a big way”. On the contrary. Airbnb’s profitability is growing leaps and bounds every year, and hotels in which short-term rentals are allowed are losing market share every year. In addition, many people will not choose a particular vacation spot if they can’t stay in a short-term rental. Hotels just aren’t right for a large segment of the population.

 

Also, you are entitled to your opinions, and hosts here are pretty open-minded, but you cross a line when you start blatantly insulting your audience. All you are doing is reminding hosts of the kind of guest they NEVER want to host.

I posted this so people start questing lackluster hosts and pushing back on lazy and out of touch hosts who clearly don't know what quality and service means. Do it right or don't do it at all. You get the bad reviews you deserve if you don't provide quality and high levels of service. I'd rather stay at a hotel these days. Exactly why I said "Airbnb MUST adapt or die". You destroy a platform by providing **bleep**ty accommodations, lackluster quality and service at ridiculously over valued prices. I can't wait for the real estate crash to destroy the ignorant hosts who price gauged through these past three years. If you can't do it right, get out of the business. Hard reviews are coming to these hosts who do piss poor management. 

Remember I was a host from 2014 to 2022, so don't patronize me! I know exactly what I'm talking about because I had 97% occupancy, high quality and service!

Ruth413
Level 10
Moreton, United Kingdom

Wow !  Take some deep breaths and relax.

 

I am just going to remark on one point. 

 

I think Airbnb is meant to offer a range of accommodation from budget to high end and also a range of cancellation policies so guests can choose which works best for them. 

 

Whether that is a hostel style accommodation with flexible cancellation to an expensive large property with strict cancellation.  It is totally down to the guest to choose what they require, that is if the guest actually reads through all the listings details properly before booking. 

Ruth,

 

There must be high standards across the board. As I've said, I was a host from 2014 to 2022 and everyone should hold themselves accountable. This lackluster view point is lazy and a problem with today's society. Do it right or don't do it at all. I will not hold back in giving proper reviews to a host that has not thought through the details. Especially a third party property management company who clearly cannot think. 

 

Cheers! 

 

Dean

Helen3
Level 10
Bristol, United Kingdom

Your profile doesn't show that you've been a host at all @Dean43 

Well, I have and I was a Superhost. Airbnb masks your profiles. It has nothing to do with me doing it. Bottom line, do it right or don't do it at all. I'm educating guests on how to hold Hosts responsible. If you do a great job, then you have nothing to worry about but the more guests stand up for high standards in their stays the better the product we all get. That's all. The fact that you think I'm saying something wrong tells me you're not meeting the mark. Do better! Be a better host. That's all. Do it right or don't do it at all! I have lost so much respect for this platform, it's ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous!

@Helen3  Actually, it does. He's got a whopping 91 reviews from guests. Wow! 91! That makes an expert? Then I'm a double expert, and many of you are triple or quadruple experts!! 

Funny how we don't know anything and are all falling short. Go figure. 

 

And if you disagree with his dictate on what to do, how to host, where to shop, and what to buy, that's an indication that you're failing. 

 

It's a sad state of affairs....

Haha. Oh no! Kia272 is scared she's going to held accountable! ** Do it right. I'm here to educate guests on how to hold you accountable. Go to Costco, Go to whatever you think is high-end, but if you think you can offer piss poor service, with terrible supplies, I implore guests to destroy your rating! I love how Hosts think they're clever when they are being held accountable! Do it right or go out of business! We will not stand for mediocrity. It is ridiculous and the fact that you want to debate this topic, tells me you're really missing the mark!!! I am blasting this on all social platforms to start a movement of Guests that push back on loser Hosts who are price gauging with crappy quality and poor service! 

 

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Helen3
Level 10
Bristol, United Kingdom

Do you have shares in Costco? @Dean43 😀

Mike-And-Jane0
Level 10
England, United Kingdom

@Dean43 I love it when people moralise about good host behaviour and yet get the 3 reviews below. Yes they only represent 3% of your hosting reviews but perhaps you were right to stop hosting.....

 

 

Listing was not accurate. Walked into the kitchen tore up with 10+ construction people working on it. Had access to a tiny sink in the laundry room for many days before the kitchen was ready. Couldn’t use the shower for many days as that was being worked on. Owner is trying to sell the house so be ready for showings, him to move your stuff in your room, and to be inconvenienced often. Not a good experience and left my reservation early as I didn’t feel welcome.

 

 

We would not recommend people of Color or Diverse backgrounds to stay at this place. The host made us very uncomfortable during our stay due to many inappropriate comments that he made throughout the month. For example, during our first week apparently a neighbor reported him for a city violation. Dean, the host, then said he would call ICE (immigration) on her and have her deported. Because of his various radical comments, it made the rest of the month uncomfortable and we spent much time in our rooms. Despite this, the house was clean with cleaning company coming every other week to clean, the house is spacious, and located in a safe neighborhood near stores. Our room was hot despite the rest of the house being 70 degrees, but Dean did provide a fan when requested

 

 

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